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| | they won't do a new series. to the network and to paramount that's a) too much like giving in at such a late stage and b) saying 'they were wrong'. and TPTB are never wrong no matter what. Possibly a feature if someone became huge? maybe. but Bakula is pretty damn big and there's bugger all going on. It's about getting the cast back together at a time when they're all available and the script is written etc etc. and it's not going to happen. the actors have moved on, and if one of them did 'get big' and TPTB decided they'd like a shot at more likelihood is that actor, now being 'big' would get far better offers and be far more busy. enterprise is pretty much screwed.
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| | I could never understand why they didn't promote Enterprise more. If the studios didn't want another ST series then why bother making it? They bounced the show all round the tv schedules - no wonder some people stopped watching it. Maybe they should've waited a couple of years before showing it then people would've been eager to see it. It started off just as Voyager was ending and TNG film Nemesis failed at the box office. It just seems a shame that it ended so soon and with the TATV episode - Enterprise was the best ST series of the lot, had the best group of actors and should have gone the full 7 series. |
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| | I only ever watched TNG and Enterprise (I have watched all of TOS but that doesn't count.. I never watched it while it was on growing up etc. it's also too cheesy to be proper star trek for me in some ways)... mainly because the settings and the cast I believe were always the best... especially in their time periods. i.e. TNG was very late 80s/early 90s and enterprise was a very new millenium show in their outlook in how they solved each problem in the star trek-y way. which is probably why I liked TATV.. I liked Riker... I liked Geordi and data and picard... heck, once more we see that star trek employed good actors in their lead males  i'm not sure why the network kept going with it. there are a few theories in my head though. it could have been contractual with paramount in the first place... it could also have easily been to do with changeovers. which was the reason we lost enterprise.. was because all the trek fans at paramount left/got fired etc. this is how hollywood/networks etc work. the new head of programming comes in and will ditch EVERYTHING the predecessor did. because if it succeeds and something s/he chooses fails then it weighs heavily that predecessor may have been better etc. it's the politics of the industry. it's often why we lose great tv projects. dead like me fell victim to a showtime changeover, enterprise to the paramount overhaul. there are many films that never get made or take 10 years more to ever make based on the same reasoning. I think the princess bride was one of those films. should have been made in the 70s, but lose the support at a studio and suddenly it's in the bin. it's also getting worse. due to the face that studios want a quick buck nowadays. market the reality show that lasts one year and force the following year to be new and fresh and the next etc... rather than considering a product that will not just last it's possible 7 year run, but still be popular for years, and still sell based on that. they don't take that kind of risk anymore. which is why successful shows that last a long time a pretty rare these days. and most need a few years of obscurity to kick off.
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| | Interesting you should mention reality shows. The Screen Actors Guild said that because of those type of shows there were 3500 fewer tv roles for actors. I've been thinking. You know how Broken Bow got about 14 million viewers when it was shown on tv? I wonder whether Paramount should've released it as a feature film first, before they even thought of doing a series. They could have shown it a year after Voyager ended and after the Nemesis film. People would've been curious about a new and younger cast. Maybe they'd have had a hit movie on their hands and they'd have been more willing about a series. I read that the first draft of the 11th ST film has been presented to Paramount. It's supposed to be called Star Trek: The Beginning and is set after Enterprise but before TOS. It'll have a new cast. But if it's called The Beginning are they gonna ignore Enterprise? |
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| | broken bow got a lot of viewers, but i also think most of those viewers are the types like my dad is. he watches the pilots of all the treks 'just because' it's a trek pilot, but he's not interested in watching any others, just those first episodes to see what they've done with it since he watched TOS as a boy. there are plenty of people who will watch a trek pilot like that, and other types of spin off pilots, just because it's there, then they don't watch anymore. a taste is all they ever wanted. to be honest, I'm glad we got the 4 seasons we did, even if some of it was crap, and that's because for certain, the cast wouldn't be our cast and the enterprise we know wouldn't be the enterprise we got if it was say... filming now for a feature before launching any series. i got what I wanted out of enterprise before it got destroyed, I'm happy with that. and not having three more years saved me from more tucker/tpol drivel (which, going by TATV I would have been spared 'theoretically' anyway) ... I just get to miss out on some things I would have loved to have seen.. but the pessimist inside me tells me I'd never see them anyway so it's best to leave it to the fans to decide the fates of the characters now. for a start, in my head malcolm got promoted. 
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| | Here are some interesting bits of info: Charles Tucker was going to be known as Charlie. He got his "the third" and "Trip" nickname late on in the writing for Broken Bow. His original rank was Lieutenant and he was listed as being best friends with Lieutenant Mayweather. Hoshi and T'Pol were going to have a conflictual relationship but were also best friends who would die for each other. The most interesting part was that Malcolm was meant to be a Lieutenant Commander. So he would've sat at the Captain's table and not Trip! I guess they changed it so that Archer, Trip and T'Pol were the "main" characters just like Kirk, Spock and McCoy. It makes you wonder how Enterprise would've been had they stuck to the original ideas. |
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| | Trip's nickname was originallu to be 'spike'. they always wanted a nickname for him but uhm... I think Spike was rather taken already! So they went with the Trip thing. Malcolm was going to be a Lt. Commander, even after Trip was known as a Commander, but last I heard, he was Lt. Comm right up til near shooting when they realised they didn't know how to do the pips for him or something so he got demoted. Not sure if that's fan conjecture or fact, but in all the magazines doing previews for Enterprise, Malcolm was always listed as Lt. C. And they also did the thing where he was supposed to be a contradiction. Loved blowing things up but didn't like the noise so he wore ear muff thingies. Or something. Not to mention that he was going to be gay.. but that's the kind of rumour that spread when you first meet Rick and Brannon in a gay bar 
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| I'm glad they didn't go with the earmuffs, he'd have looked like a right wuss! That's definitely not the Malcolm we all know and love! |
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| DomCat (10/10/2005)
...Hoshi and T'Pol were going to have a conflictual relationship but were also best friends who would die for each other. This is very interesting. I think it would have made for a stronger show, overall, if there were some decent female relationships on it. I mean, come on. In a crew of 84, there are relatively few women (it seems), so wouldn't the women that were there become friends? And since Hoshi and T'Pol are the only female bridge crew, wouldn't at least some sort of relationship have been built there? There was a bit going on in the first season, but nothing really came of it, which is too bad.
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| | I bought Total DVD mag Issue 80 and in it they review series 3 of Enterprise. They say "The cliffhanger will have your jaw dropping" and they praise the "excellent disc package, the usual lush packaging and the excellent sound and dialogue." Then they spoil it by saying "rather than wander around aimlessly, Enterprise developed a bit more energy this season." - They were exploring the galaxy NOT wandering aimlessly. They mention "turning the dirge-like ballard into a soft rock version." Dirge- like? I LOVED the theme tune (before they altered it), it was uplifting and inspiring. They say "some good episodes make this the least worst season of Enterprise." - What?? Have I been watching a different Star Trek to them? Season 1 was good, but series 2 was BRILLIANT!! |
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